Greatest Rock Artists Of All Time (Revision Version)

[ManPerson]

I could see something like this
1. Arcade Fire
2. Backstreet Boys
3. Fiona Apple
4. Bad Brains
5. Arrested Development
6. The Bangles
7. Bad Company
8. Adam Ant
9. Animal Collective
10. Archibald

[Tim]

Thoughts:

260. Salt-N-Pepa
261. Peter Gabriel
262. The Righteous Brothers
263. Jethro Tull
264. Soundgarden
265. Crystals
266. George Harrison
267. Aaliyah
268. Electric Light Orchestra
269. New York Dolls
270. Arcade Fire
271. The (Young) Rascals
272. T.I.
273. Gene Vincent & the Blue Caps
274. The Marvelettes
275. Joe Tex
276. The Prodigy
277. Johnny Ace
278. Lloyd Price
279. Cher
280. R. Kelly
281. The Lovin' Spoonful 
282. The Spinners
283. Rick James
284. Barry White
285. Weezer
286. Linda Ronstadt
287. The Shadows
288. Emerson, Lake & Palmer
289. Erykah Badu
290. Gary Numan/Tubeway Army
291. Toots & the Maytals
292. Television
293. Todd Rundgren/Utopia
294. Slayer
295. Backstreet Boys
296. 50 Cent
297. Boston
298. Cheap Trick
299. Buffalo Springfield
300. Justin Bieber
301. Journey
302. John Mellencamp
303. ZZ Top
304. The Moonglows
305. Duane Eddy
306. Alice in Chains
307. Heart
308. Bryan Adams
309. Tina Turner
310. Patti LaBelle/Labelle
311. Christina Aguilera
312. Steve Miller Band
313. The Dells
314. Faye Adams
315. Judas Priest
316. Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds
317. PJ Harvey
318. Tyler, the Creator
319. INXS
320. The Doobie Brothers
321. Moby
322. The Chemical Brothers
323. Jan & Dean
324. Boogie Down Productions
325. The B-52's
326. Randy Newman
327. Ritchie Valens
328. Dick Dale & the Del-Tones
329. No Doubt
330. Scorpions
331. Gloria Estefan/Miami Sound Machine
332. Anita Baker
333. Mary Wells
334. Fiona Apple
335. Jeff Buckley
336. Tori Amos
337. Blue Öyster Cult
338. Wire
339. Tracy Chapman
340. Ice-T/Body Count
341. Shirley & Lee
342. The Hollies
343. The Stylistics
344. Giorgio Moroder
345. Fugazi
346. Doug E. Fresh & the Get Fresh Crew
347. Pavement
348. Queen Latifah
349. Screamin' Jay Hawkins
350. Dead Kennedys
351. Black Flag
352. Laura Nyro
353. X
354. Foreigner
355. System of a Down
356. Megadeth
357. Peter Frampton
358. Carly Simon
359. The Roots
360. Bad Brains
361. The Pointer Sisters
362. Jack Scott
363. Larry Williams
364. Kurtis Blow
365. The Fall
366. Warren Zevon
367. Kansas
368. Robbie Williams
369. UB40
370. Aphex Twin
371. 10cc
372. Air
373. Grand Funk Railroad
374. Dave Matthews Band
375. Arrested Development
376. Ohio Players
377. Huey Lewis & the News
378. Bachman-Turner Overdrive
379. The Chiffons
380. Big Mama Thornton
381. The Bangles
382. Bad Company
383. The 5th Dimension
384. A$AP Rocky
385. Jimmy Buffett
386. Bonnie Raitt
387. Arthur Alexander
388. Adam Ant/Adam & the Ants
389. Animal Collective
390. Annie Lennox
391. Sarah McLachlan
392. Yellow Magic Orchestra
393. 2 Live Crew
394. Air Supply
395. Melissa Etheridge
396. Rickie Lee Jones
397. Joan Armatrading
398. Archibald

[Tim]

Next:

Bauhaus
Beach House
Jeff Beck
Belle and Sebastian
Jesse Belvin
Pat Benatar
Big Star
The Black Crowes
The Black Eyed Peas
The Black Keys

[ManPerson]

That looks slightly high for Backstreet Boys. I'd give Alice in Chains acclaim and influence over them, at least.

[ManPerson]

1. Jesse Belvin
2. Big Star
3. Jeff Beck
4. Belle and Sebastian
5. The Black Eyed Peas
6. The Black Keys
7. Beach House
8. Bauhaus
9. Pat Benatar
10. The Black Crowes

Placing Bauhaus was probably the most difficult part of ordering this since they have huge influence on gothic and alt rock while also having very limited popularity and fairly subpar acclaim, at least compared to most artists in this group.

[Fido]

My thinking regarding hypothetical Bieber v Megadeth, Dead Kennedys, Black Flag, etc. match-up is that popularity is a landslide Bieber win in all of these cases and influence & acclaim limited to a relatively niche subgenre is not enough to overturn this, even if they are huge within their subgenres. Of course, some of these are influential on relatively large subgenres (Boogie Down and gangsta rap, Judas Priest and broad metal influence), and some have rather broad influence like Fugazi but these are also usually the ones ranked highest of these. Plus, in Bieber's case there's also youtube influence spreading across the genres and within pop music, he's pretty acclaimed.

I specifically chose those artists because they are also very acclaimed outside of their niches, just look at AM and it's not even close. I don't know how anyone can say Bieber is pretty acclaimed, his records always get mid reviews at best, his highest song on AM is outside of the top 1000, with no albums, and he's not getting many accolades from his peers. "Youtube influence" is honestly nothing, and comparing it with any of the artists I mentioned, who pioneered actual musical movements that have been influential all over the world for decades at this point, is ridiculous. I see their win as a landslide too, but since there are no numbers to show for it it gets swept under the rug. My point wasn't really about his particular placement though, it was more about which artists are getting under/overrated on this huge range of the list with so many artists with similar credentials.

[ManPerson]

My thinking regarding hypothetical Bieber v Megadeth, Dead Kennedys, Black Flag, etc. match-up is that popularity is a landslide Bieber win in all of these cases and influence & acclaim limited to a relatively niche subgenre is not enough to overturn this, even if they are huge within their subgenres. Of course, some of these are influential on relatively large subgenres (Boogie Down and gangsta rap, Judas Priest and broad metal influence), and some have rather broad influence like Fugazi but these are also usually the ones ranked highest of these. Plus, in Bieber's case there's also youtube influence spreading across the genres and within pop music, he's pretty acclaimed.

I see their win as a landslide too, but since there are no numbers to show for it it gets swept under the rug. .

I think it's fair to say those artists aren't as influential as Bieber is popular, though, considering Bieber is one of the most popular artists of the century.

And I don't see how his rise on YouTube doesn't at least have some significance. And his importance extends beyond that with Purpose being cited as a transformational pop album and his cultural impact obviously being huge.

[Tim]

Next:

Bauhaus
Beach House
Jeff Beck
Belle and Sebastian
Jesse Belvin
Pat Benatar
Big Star
The Black Crowes
The Black Eyed Peas
The Black Keys

1. Jeff Beck
2. Jesse Belvin
3. Big Star
4. The Black Eyed Peas
5. The Black Keys
6. Belle and Sebastian
7. Beach House
8. Bauhaus
9. Pat Benatar
10. The Black Crowes

[Tim]

My first shot at inserting the 10 above:

290. Gary Numan/Tubeway Army
291. Toots & the Maytals
292. Television
293. Todd Rundgren/Utopia
294. Slayer
295. Jeff Beck
296. 50 Cent
297. Boston
298. Cheap Trick
299. Jesse Belvin
300. Buffalo Springfield
301. Justin Bieber
302. Journey
303. John Mellencamp
304. ZZ Top
305. The Moonglows
306. Duane Eddy
307. Alice in Chains
308. Backstreet Boys
309. Heart
310. Bryan Adams
311. Tina Turner
312. Patti LaBelle/Labelle
313. Christina Aguilera
314. Steve Miller Band
315. The Dells
316. Faye Adams
317. Judas Priest
318. Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds
319. PJ Harvey
320. Big Star
321. Tyler, the Creator
322. INXS
323. The Doobie Brothers
324. Moby
325. The Chemical Brothers
326. Jan & Dean
327. Boogie Down Productions
328. The B-52's
329. Randy Newman
330. Ritchie Valens
331. Dick Dale & the Del-Tones
332. No Doubt
333. Scorpions
334. The Black Eyed Peas
335. Gloria Estefan/Miami Sound Machine
336. Anita Baker
337. Mary Wells
338. Fiona Apple
339. Jeff Buckley
340. Tori Amos
341. Blue Öyster Cult
342. Wire
343. Tracy Chapman
344. Ice-T/Body Count
345. Shirley & Lee
346. The Hollies
347. The Stylistics
348. Giorgio Moroder
349. Fugazi
350. Doug E. Fresh & the Get Fresh Crew
351. Pavement
352. Queen Latifah
353. Screamin' Jay Hawkins
354. Dead Kennedys
355. Belle and Sebastian
356. Black Flag
357. Laura Nyro
358. X
359. Foreigner
360. System of a Down
361. Megadeth
362. Peter Frampton
363. Carly Simon
364. The Roots
365. Bad Brains
366. The Pointer Sisters
367. The Black Keys
368. Jack Scott
369. Larry Williams
370. Kurtis Blow
371. The Fall
372. Beach House
373. Bauhaus
374. Warren Zevon
375. Kansas
376. Robbie Williams
377. UB40
378. Aphex Twin
379. 10cc
380. Air
381. Grand Funk Railroad
382. Dave Matthews Band
383. Arrested Development
384. Ohio Players
385. Huey Lewis & the News
386. Pat Benatar
387. Bachman-Turner Overdrive
388. The Chiffons
389. Big Mama Thornton
390. The Bangles
391. Bad Company
392. The 5th Dimension
393. A$AP Rocky
394. Jimmy Buffett
395. Bonnie Raitt
396. Arthur Alexander
397. Adam Ant/Adam & the Ants
398. Animal Collective
399. Annie Lennox
400. Sarah McLachlan
401. The Black Crowes
402. Yellow Magic Orchestra
403. 2 Live Crew
404. Air Supply
405. Melissa Etheridge
406. Rickie Lee Jones
407. Joan Armatrading
408. Archibald

[ManPerson]

Looks good at first glance.

[Tim]

Wonder if The Jeff Beck Group should be acknowledged under Jeff Beck entry. Ditto for Hendrix & The Jimi Hendrix Experience; Band of Gypsies.

[Tim]

One possible way

xx. Jimi Hendrix (incl. The Jimi Hendrix Experience; Band of Gypsies)

xxx. Jeff Beck (incl. The Jeff Beck Group)

[ManPerson]

Wonder if The Jeff Beck Group should be acknowledged under Jeff Beck entry. Ditto for Hendrix & The Jimi Hendrix Experience; Band of Gypsies.

It can't hurt to make it more clear, ig.

[Tim]

Next:

James Blake
Blink-182
Blood, Sweat & Tears
Blur
Blue Cheer
Bon Iver
Gary "U.S." Bonds
Earl Bostic
Tiny Bradshaw
Brandy

[Tim]

My shot:

1. Blur
2. Blink-182
3. Gary "U.S." Bonds
4. Brandy
5. Earl Bostic
6. Tiny Bradshaw
7. Bon Iver
8. James Blake
9. Blood, Sweat & Tears
10. Blue Cheer

[pauldrach]

One possible way

xx. Jimi Hendrix (incl. The Jimi Hendrix Experience; Band of Gypsies)

xxx. Jeff Beck (incl. The Jeff Beck Group)

I also added Jesse & Marvin to Jesse Belvin's entry. The first post should be up-to-date again.