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I'd look at it roughly like this:

Influence: BS >> IM (especially in terms of foundational importance to heavy metal)

Acclaim: BS < IM (I think IM has the broader recognition and is probably more universally regarded as the classic riff)

Popularity/Iconicity: BS <<< IM (this should be ...

So in this case you value recognizability over innovation and importance to guitar playing?

"Black Sabbath" invented the genre of heavy metal and changed the course of heavy rock more generally. If you're going to be consistent, there's no way it can't be. You already have "Iron Man" in your top 5 anyway.

The other two riffs, though, really aren't far behind when it comes to recognizability and iconic status--the Zep riff especially. Both are instantly identifiable, deeply ingrained in rock culture, and widely regarded as all-time great riffs. Where they separate themselves is that they also clearly ...

Yeah there's some good names on these lists but far too much weight is given to name value.

Fido wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2026 4:24 am Doesn't look bad. The metal holy trinity looks wrong below Cornell and Wilson, but I may be focusing on influence alone.

As opposed to the acclaim and skill they are somehow lacking in?

Double or Nothing

Cope & Christian vs FTR ****1/2
Mina Shirakawa vs Athena ***3/4
Kazuchika Okada vs Konosuke Takeshita *****
Jon Moxley vs Kyle O'Reilly ****1/4
Will Ospreay vs Samoa Joe ****3/4
Swerve Strickland vs Bandido ****1/2
Thekla vs Jamie Hayter vs Kris Statlander vs Hikaru Shida ...

Nacho Libre > Tropic Thunder too

Covenant at #1 is pretty insane too. Honestly needs to flip with Altars of Madness, but it's a good list otherwise.

xUltraMegaMK wrote: Thu Feb 05, 2026 1:45 pm

I wish I could listen to this album on its own (I know I literally can, but it's not something I'm likely to) because it is absolutely stunning as a soundtrack.

Lemme try.

1. Geese - Getting Killed
2. Ryan Davis & the Roadhouse Band - New Threats from the Soul
3. Anna von Hausswolff - Iconoclasts
4. Billy Woods - Golliwog
5. Asian Glow - 11100011
6. Kamasi Washington - Lazarus
7. Asunojokei - Think of You
8. Ichiko Aoba - Luminescent Creatures
9. Maruja ...

You can apply that logic to tons of acts, that doesn't make them interchangeable. Would you consider Brian Eno and Roxy Music to be indivisible? How about Paul Simon and S&G? Lou Reed and the Velvet Underground?

I can't see why George Michael and Wham are combined. Those are incontrovertibly two separate musical entities.

Hey I really like the layout on this one!

This would actually be fine with me

You know what just struck me? The Assassination of Jesse James should be on Brad Pitt's list, rather than Tree of Life.