ManPerson wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2025 4:00 pm
The Favourite seems to fit pretty well into the Manchester by the Sea/Carol/Marriage Story group so I'd move it down into that range
Some films I'd have in the 41-60 group are:
Avengers: Infinity War - Huge popularity and audience acclaim. Similar to Avengers: Endgame with a bit less initial popularity and critical acclaim
Deadpool - Strong popularity and audience acclaim, breakthrough for Ryan Reynolds and it even got a golden globe nomination for best comedy or musical
Coco - Similar acclaim to something like Blade Runner 2049 and stronger popularity
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2 - Huge popularity and audience acclaim with very strong critic ratings as well (85 on Metacritic, 96 on RT)
Incendies - Strong critical acclaim, great audience ratings across the board, decent lasting popularity and Denis' breakthrough as well.
Most certainly not - he was the lead in several films before this like Amityville Horror, Definitely Maybe, and The Proposal.
If everyone else is on board, I'm pretty okay with these adds (do you want to place them where you think appropriate?).
'Breakthrough 'was probably a poor choice of words, but the film definitely deserves a lions share of the credit for him becoming one of the biggest movie stars of the past few years, a status he certainly did not have before it came out.
My apologies to MP if the post came out that way, it was meant to be more tongue in cheek than anything.
The point of the post was to criticize that kind of simplified breakdowns that don't take into account how certain movies have a huge advantage in popularity by design, made worse when giving that much importance to audience acclaim, which is just an extension of those advantages in most cases.
Fido wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 4:34 am
My apologies to MP if the post came out that way, it was meant to be more tongue in cheek than anything.
The point of the post was to criticize that kind of simplified breakdowns that don't take into account how certain movies have a huge advantage in popularity by design, made worse when giving that much importance to audience acclaim, which is just an extension of those advantages in most cases.
Highly popular movies often have mediocre ratings on IMDb and Letterboxd and more obscure films often have high ratings.
Plus, whether those films (assuming you're referring to stuff by Marvel, DC, Disney, etc.) are popular "by design" or not, they are the most seen and culturally impactful films of the year, which is what the popularity category should measure.
How about something like this? (I don't agree with giving too much credence to Infinity War, as the 2012 film + Endgame seemed a lot more culturally impactful than that one):
41. Portrait of a Lady on Fire
42. Frozen
43. Shoplifters
44. Dunkirk
45. The Shape of Water
46. 1917
47. The Favourite
48. Spotlight
49. Manchester by the Sea
50. Carol
51. Marriage Story
52. Your Name.
53. Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri
54. A Star is Born
55. Blade Runner 2049
56. Incendies
57. Blue Is the Warmest Colour
58. Avengers: Infinity War
59. Deadpool
60. Coco
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If everyone is on board with the most recent update of mine:
2019
1. Parasite - Bong Joon-Ho
2. Joker - Todd Phillips
3. Avengers: Endgame - Anthony & Joe Russo
4. The Irishman - Martin Scorsese
5. Once Upon a Time in... Hollywood - Quentin Tarantino 6. Portrait of a Lady on Fire - Céline Sciamma 7. 1917 - Sam Mendes 8. Marriage Story - Noah Baumbach
2018
1. Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse - Bob Persichetti, Peter Ramsey & Rodney Rothman
2. Roma - Alfonso Cuarón
3. Black Panther - Ryan Coogler 4. Shoplifters - Hirokazu Koreeda
5. The Favourite - Yorgos Lanthimos 6. A Star is Born - Bradley Cooper 7. Avengers: Infinity War - Anthony & Joe Russo
2017
1. Get Out - Jordan Peele
2. Call Me by Your Name - Luca Guadagnino
3. Lady Bird - Greta Gerwig 4. Dunkirk - Christopher Nolan 5. The Shape of Water - Guillermo del Toro 6. Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri - Martin McDonagh
7. Blade Runner 2049 - Denis Villeneuve 8. Coco - Lee Unkrich & Adrian Molina
2016
1. Moonlight - Barry Jenkins
2. La La Land - Damien Chazelle
3. Arrival - Denis Villeneuve
4. Manchester by the Sea - Kenneth Lonergan 5. Your Name. - Makoto Shinkai 6. Deadpool - Tim Miller
2015
1. Mad Max: Fury Road - George Miller
2. Inside Out - Pete Docter & Ronnie del Carmen
3. The Revenant - Alejandro González Iñárritu
4. Spotlight - Tom McCarthy
5. Carol - Todd Haynes
2014
1. Boyhood - Richard Linklater
2. Birdman or (The Unexpected Virtus of Ignorance) - Alejandro González Iñárritu
3. The Grand Budapest Hotel - Wes Anderson
4. Whiplash - Damien Chazelle
5. Interstellar - Christopher Nolan
6. Gone Girl - David Fincher
7. Guardians of the Galaxy - James Gunn
2013
1. Gravity - Alfonso Cuarón
2. 12 Years a Slave - Steve McQueen
3. The Wolf of Wall Street - Martin Scorsese
4. Her - Spike Jonze 5. Frozen - Chris Buck & Jennifer Lee 6. Blue Is the Warmest Colour - Abdellatif Kechiche
2012
1. The Avengers - Joss Whedon
2. Amour - Michael Haneke
3. Django Unchained - Quentin Tarantino
4. Skyfall - Sam Mendes
2011
1. A Separation - Asghar Farhadi
2. The Tree of Life - Terrence Malick
3. Drive - Nicolas Winding Refn
2010
1. Inception - Christopher Nolan
2. The Social Network - David Fincher
3. Toy Story 3 - Lee Unkrich
4. Black Swan - Darren Aronofsky
5. The King's Speech - Tom Hooper 6. Incendies - Denis Villeneuve
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61. How to Train Your Dragon
62. Phantom Thread
63. The Handmaiden
64. BlacKkKlansman
65. Argo
66. Silver Linings Playbook
67. Midnight in Paris
68. Life of Pi
69. Hugo
70. The Artist
71. The Act of Killing
72. Logan
73. Inside Llewyn Davis
74. Son of Saul
75. Leviathan
76. Little Women
77. Moonrise Kingdom
78. True Grit
79. Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Part 2
80. The Great Beauty
