100 Greatest NBA Players
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@pave when you are replacing Wilt with Hali?
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Wilt Blocked Kareem 17 Times in One Series — At 35 Years Old
If a player had 17 blocks in a six-game playoff series, it would be considered impressive. In the 1972 Western Conference Finals, Wilt Chamberlain blocked Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 17 times by himself—including five skyhooks in the Game 6 clincher.
Wilt was 35 years old. Kareem was 24 and in his prime. Generational talents are special, but Once-In-A-Lifetime is something entirely different.
If a player had 17 blocks in a six-game playoff series, it would be considered impressive. In the 1972 Western Conference Finals, Wilt Chamberlain blocked Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 17 times by himself—including five skyhooks in the Game 6 clincher.
Wilt was 35 years old. Kareem was 24 and in his prime. Generational talents are special, but Once-In-A-Lifetime is something entirely different.
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Wilt Chamberlain Could Really Hurt Someone Elvin Hayes Explains Why.
In 1982, when he was 45 and Philadelphia 76er owner Harold Katz was hot after him, the Houston Chronicle's George White asked Elvin Hayes if Chamberlain could still play. "Some things about Wilt, you never forgot," Hayes said. "He was such an awesome physical specimen. To go up under Wilt Chamberlain, to be down there and look up at him when he's towering up over you waiting to dunk, was a terrifying picture. To see him poised up there, knowing he was about to sweep down with that big jam . . . that must be the most frightening sight in sports. The ball goes shooting through the net and you better have your body covered up because he could really hurt someone. I was scared. Everyone was scared when he got that look in his eye, that don't-try-to-stop-this look that he got when he really wanted it. . . . "I think Russell realized there was no way he could have stopped Wilt if he had been fully intent on making it a two-man game. No one who ever put on a uniform could have done it. When I played him, I kept this foremost in my mind: Above all, don't make him mad. Don't embarrass him. You wanted to keep him quiet as long as possible."
In 1982, when he was 45 and Philadelphia 76er owner Harold Katz was hot after him, the Houston Chronicle's George White asked Elvin Hayes if Chamberlain could still play. "Some things about Wilt, you never forgot," Hayes said. "He was such an awesome physical specimen. To go up under Wilt Chamberlain, to be down there and look up at him when he's towering up over you waiting to dunk, was a terrifying picture. To see him poised up there, knowing he was about to sweep down with that big jam . . . that must be the most frightening sight in sports. The ball goes shooting through the net and you better have your body covered up because he could really hurt someone. I was scared. Everyone was scared when he got that look in his eye, that don't-try-to-stop-this look that he got when he really wanted it. . . . "I think Russell realized there was no way he could have stopped Wilt if he had been fully intent on making it a two-man game. No one who ever put on a uniform could have done it. When I played him, I kept this foremost in my mind: Above all, don't make him mad. Don't embarrass him. You wanted to keep him quiet as long as possible."
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Feel if Derrick Rose is a top 150 player then SGA gotta be as well.
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Definitely
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Here are my updated (through the 24-25 season) rankings of the most valuable players in NBA/ABA history. First the overall list and then the list broken down by the 5 positions on the court.
MOST VALUABLE PLAYERS
01. Kareem - 228.52
02. LeBron - 224.10
03. Wilt - 222.13
04. Jordan - 203.96
05. Mailman - 193.64
06. Chris Paul - 183.45
07. Nowitzki - 180.29
08. Duncan - 177.17
09. Oscar - 174.35
10. Stockton - 173.19
11. Admiral - 170.16
12. Garnett - 168.03
13. Shaq - 167.89
14. Gilmore - 164.84
15. Durant - 164.17
16. Barkley - 163.89
17. Dr. J - 160.96
18. Harden - 159.77
19. Moses - 157.55
20. Kobe - 155.62
21. West - 155.35
22. Russell - 152.61
23. Magic- 151.85
24. Olajuwon - 150.08
25. Miller - 148.40
26. Bird - 145.23
27. Jokic - 143.28
28. Schayes - 139.84
29. Curry - 139.15
30. Pettit - 138.52
31. Issel - 138.40
32. Mikan - 137.19
33. Dwight Howard - 132.95
34. Paul Pierce - 132.35
35. Pau Gasol - 131.69
36. Payton - 131.13
37. Greek Freak - 130.16
38. Drexler - 129.80
39. Dantley - 129.74
40. Anthony Davis - 127.73
41. Ray Allen - 126.57
42. Parish - 126.02
43. Bellamy - 125.62
44. Wade - 124.88
45. Nash - 123.61
46. Ewing - 123.31
47. Frazier - 122.86
48. Barry - 122.25
49. Billups - 121.40
50. Pippen - 121.34
51. Havlicek - 121.02
52. Marion - 120.46
53. Jimmy Butler - 120.28
54. Kidd - 119.68
55. Gobert - 118.70
56. Arizin - 117.78
57. Lanier - 117.52
58. Lillard - 117.51
59. Gervin - 116.15
60. Vince Carter - 115.65
61. Dominique - 115.55
62. Westbrook - 115.48
63. McHale - 115.23
64. Hayes - 114.96
65. Chet Walker - 113.76
66. Bailey Howell - 113.24
67. Aldridge - 111.63
68. Kawhi Leonard - 111.45
69. Baylor - 111.36
70. Mutombo - 110.53
71. McGrady - 109.74
72. Nance - 109.67
73. Horace Grant - 109.33
74. Zelmo Beaty - 109.12
75. Ginobli - 107.63
76. Ed Macauley - 107.51
77. Brand - 107.42
78. Terry Porter - 107.15
79. Horford - 106.75
80. Hornacek - 106.01
81. Bosh - 105.77
82. Johnston - 105.65
83. Unseld - 105.60
84. Buck Williams - 105.30
85. Iverson - 104.93
86. Sikma - 104.59
87. Schrempf - 104.02
88. Stoudemire - 103.71
89. Lowry - 103.65
90. Parker - 103.05
91. Kevin Johnson - 103.02
92. Carmelo - 102.99
93. McAdoo - 102.88
94. DeMar DeRozan - 102.50
95. English - 101.81
96. DeAndre Jordan - 101.40
97. Laimbeer - 101.33
98. Jerry Lucas - 101.26
99. Cheeks - 99.50
100. Rasheed - 99.37
101. Moncrief - 99.26
102. Thorpe - 98.90
103. Shawn Kemp - 98.36
104. Mike Conley - 98.03
105. Eddie Jones - 97.99
106. Hal Greer - 97.73
107. Grant Hill - 97.47
108. Tyson Chandler - 97.40
109. Kevin Love - 97.35
110. Sam Jones - 97.00
111. Karl-Anthony Towns - 96.53
112. Cliff Hagan - 96.46
113. Jason Terry - 96.32
114. Mourning - 96.15
115. Ben Wallace - 96.10
116. Andre Miller - 96.03
117. Kyrie Irving - 95.02
118. Paul George - 94.75
119. Bobby Jones - 94.45
120. Marques Johnson - 94.44
121. Blake Griffin - 94.29
122. Mullin - 94.13
123. Cowens - 94.34
124. Hersey Hawkins - 93.90
125. Cummings - 93.38
126. AC Green - 93.38
127. Lenny Wilkins - 92.77
128. Webber - 92.52
129. Anthony Mason - 92.40
130. Mikkelsen - 92.23
131. Divac - 92.00
132. Iguodala - 91.63
133. Cassell - 91.57
134. Glen Rice - 91.11
135. Bob Cousy - 91.00
136. Rashard Lewis - 90.90
137. Worthy - 90.68
138. Tim Hardaway - 90.64
139. Bill Sharman - 90.30
140. Rodman - 89.97
141. Millsap - 89.92
142. Jonas Valančiūnas - 89.90
143. Willis Reed - 89.79
144. Marc Gasol - 89.68
145. Stojaković - 89.57
146. Isiah - 89.50
147. Steve Smith - 89.42
148. Archibald - 89.36
149. Brook Lopez - 89.05
150. Billy Cunningham - 88.98
151. Jamison - 88.68
152. Jimmy Jones - 88.51
153. Connie Hawkins - 88.46
154. Larry Foust - 88.42
155. Lou Hudson - 88.36
Next are the most valuable players at each position.
POINT GUARD
1. Chris Paul - 183.45
2. Oscar - 174.35
3. Stockton - 173.19
4. West - 155.35
5. Magic - 151.85
6. Curry - 139.15
7. Payton - 131.13
8. Nash - 123.61
9. Frazier - 122.86
10. Billups - 121.40
11. Kidd - 119.68
12. Lillard - 117.51
13. Westbrook - 115.48
14. Terry Porter - 107.15
15. Lowry - 103.65
16. Parker - 103.05
17. Kevin Johnson - 103.02
18. Cheeks - 99.50
19. Mike Conley - 98.03
20. Andre Miller - 96.03
21. Kyrie Irving - 95.02
22. Lenny Wilkins - 92.77
23. Cassell - 91.57
24. Cousy - 91.00
25. Tim Hardaway - 90.64
26. Isiah - 89.50
27. Archibald - 89.36
28. Jimmy Jones - 88.51
29. Deron Williams - 87.77
30. Mark Jackson - 87.68
31. Strickland - 87.59
32. Calvin Murphy - 87.51
33. Derek Harper - 85.75
34. Mark Price - 83.86
35. Gus Williams - 82.99
36. Luka Dončić - 82.13
37. Marbury - 82.04
38. Shai Gilgeous-Alexander - 81.21
39. Dennis Johnson - 80.81
40. Blaylock - 80.40
41. Penny Hardaway - 78.71
42. Jrue Holiday - 77.75
43. Baron Davis - 77.26
44. Mike Bibby - 75.92
45. Doc Rivers - 75.47
46. Archie Clark - 75.53
47. Louis Dampier - 75.01
SHOOTING GUARD
1. Jordan - 203.96
3. Harden - 159.77
3. Kobe - 155.62
4. Miller - 148.40
5. Drexler - 129.80
6. Ray Allen - 126.57
7. Wade - 124.88
8. Gervin - 116.15
9. Vince Carter - 115.65
10. McGrady - 109.74
11. Ginobli - 107.63
12. Hornacek - 106.01
13. Iverson - 104.93
14. DeMar DeRozan - 102.50
15. Moncrief - 99.26
16. Eddie Jones - 97.99
17. Greer - 97.73
18. Sam Jones - 97.00
19. Jason Terry - 96.32
20. Hersey Hawkins - 93.90
21. Bill Sharman - 90.30
22. Steve Smith - 89.42
23. Lou Hudson - 88.36
24. Dumars - 86.34
25..Walter Davis - 85.88
26. Earl Monroe - 83.28
27. Goodrich - 82.29
28. Mitch Richmond - 81.20
29. Dick Van Arsdale - 80.01
30. Dan Majerle - 79.96
31. Brent Barry - 79.91
32. Paul Westphal - 79.62
33. Joe Johnson - 79.48
34. Blackman - 79.17
35. Ricky Pierce - 78.10
36. Byron Scott - 76.93
37. Richie Guerin - 75.00
SMALL FORWARD
1. LeBron - 224.10
2. Durant - 164.17
3. Dr. J - 160.96
4. Bird - 145.23
5. Paul Pierce - 132.35
6. Dantley - 129.74
7. Rick Barry - 122.25
8. Pippen - 121.34
9. Havlicek - 121.02
10. Marion - 120.46
11. Jimmy Butler - 120.28
12. Arizin - 117.78
13. Dominique- 115.55
14. Chet Walker - 113.76
15. Kawhi Leonard - 111.45
16. Baylor - 111.36
17. Schrempf - 104.02
18. Carmelo - 102.99
19. English - 101.81
20. Grant Hill - 97.47
21. Cliff Hagan - 96.46
22. Paul George - 94.75
23. Marques Johnson - 94.44
24. Mullin - 94.13
25. Iguodala - 91.63
26. Glen Rice - 91.11
27. Rashard Lewis - 90.90
28. Worthy - 90.68
29. Stojaković - 89.57
30. Billy Cunningham - 88.98
31. Connie Hawkins - 88.46
32. Bob Dandridge - 87.02
33. Cornbread Maxwell - 86.60
34. Vandeweghe - 86.10
35. Richard Jefferson - 84.87
36. Dale Ellis - 84.20
37. Jayson Tatum - 82.56
38. Michael Finley - 82.21
39. Twyman - 81.11
40. Bernard King - 80.13
41. Don Nelson - 80.03
42. Kirilenko - 79.25
43. Yardley - 79.07
44. Luol Deng - 78.47
45. Wilkes - 78.22
46. Mark Aguirre - 77.90
47. Battier - 77.54
48. John Drew - 76.11
49. Jerome Kersey - 75.14
POWER FORWARD
1. Mailman - 193.64
2. Nowitzki - 180.29
3. Garnett - 168.03
4. Barkley - 163.89
5. Schayes - 139.84
6. Pettit - 138.52
7. Pau Gasol - 131.69
8. Greek Freak - 130.16
9. McHale - 115.23
10. Hayes - 114.96
11. Bailey Howell - 113.24
12. Aldridge - 111.63
13. Nance - 109.67
14. Horace Grant - 109.33
15. Brand - 107.42
16. Buck Williams - 105.30
17. Stoudemire - 103.71
18. Jerry Lucas - 101.26
19. Rasheed Wallace - 99.37
20. Thorpe - 98.90
21. Shawn Kemp - 98.36
22. Kevin Love - 97.35
23. Bobby Jones - 94.45
24. Blake Griffin - 94.29
25. Cummings - 93.38
26. AC Green - 93.38
27. Webber - 92.52
28. Anthony Mason - 92.40
29. Mikkelsen - 92.23
30. Rodman - 89.97
31. Millsap - 89.92
32. Jamison - 88.68
33. David West - 87.76
34. PJ Brown - 87.12
35. Carlos Boozer - 86.85
36. George McGinnis - 86.63
37. Cliff Robinson - 86.02
38. Spencer Haywood - 85.28
39. Oakley - 85.14
40. Harry Gallatin - 85.08
41. Zach Randolph - 84.62
42. Odom - 84.29
43. Paul Silas - 83.07
44. Dale Davis - 82.58
45. Rudy T - 80.23
46. David Lee - 80.18
47. Kevin Willis - 79.40
48. Tom Chambers - 79.29
49. Larry Johnson - 77.73
50. Shareef Abdur-Rahim - 77.30
51. Happy Hairston - 76.96
52. Tobias Harris - 76.12 (46.40)
53. Hot Rod Williams - 75.40
54. Maurice Lucas - 75.00
CENTER
1. Kareem - 228.52
2. Wilt - 222.13
3. Duncan - 177.17 (played over 60% of his career minutes at center)
4. Admiral - 170.16
5. Shaq - 167.89
6. Gilmore - 164.84
7. Moses - 157.55
8. Russell - 152.61
9. Olajuwon - 150.08
10. Jokic - 143.28
11. Issel - 138.40
12. Mikan - 137.19
13. Dwight Howard - 132.95
14. Anthony Davis - 127.73
15. Parish - 126.02
16. Bellamy - 125.62
17. Ewing - 123.31
18. Gobert - 118.70
19. Lanier - 117.52
20. Mutombo - 110.53
21. Beaty - 109.12
22. Ed Macauley - 107.51
23. Horford - 106.75
24. Bosh - 105.77
25. Johnston - 105.65
26. Unseld - 105.60
27. Sikma - 104.59
28. McAdoo - 102.88
29. DeAndre Jordan - 101.40
30. Laimbeer - 101.33
31. Tyson Chandler - 97.40
32. Karl-Anthony Towns - 96.53
33. Mourning - 96.15
34. Ben Wallace - 96.10
35. Cowens - 94.34
36. Divac - 92.00
37. Jonas Valančiūnas - 89.90
38. Willis Reed - 89.79
38. Marc Gasol - 89.68
40. Brook Lopez - 89.05
41. Larry Foust - 88.42
42. Embiid - 85.38
43. Clyde Lovellette - 84.88
44. Brad Daugherty - 82.38
45. Marcus Camby - 82.27
46. Clint Capela - 82.08 (56.90)
47. Domantas Sabonis - 81.13
48. Drummond - 80.87
49. Brad Miller - 80.86
50. Thurmond - 80.15
51. Yao Ming - 79.77
52. Nikola Vučević - 79.36
53. Bill Cartwright - 78.81
54. Jarrett Allen - 78.63
55. Nenê - 77.00
56. Valanciunas - 76.95
57. Michael Cage - 75.84
58. Alvan Adams - 75.74
59. Ilgauskas - 75.26
Nobody is saying greatest or best. The players are ranked based on the career and peak value they accumulated during their careers. Active players are still accumulating value and will likely move up the lists every season. Jokic is already top 10 all time at center and is just halfway into his career.
You can't accumulate value if you are playing baseball rather than basketball, or if you are retired or injured. Or if you miss several prime seasons because you contract what is thought of as a deadly disease and have to stop playing.
MOST VALUABLE PLAYERS
01. Kareem - 228.52
02. LeBron - 224.10
03. Wilt - 222.13
04. Jordan - 203.96
05. Mailman - 193.64
06. Chris Paul - 183.45
07. Nowitzki - 180.29
08. Duncan - 177.17
09. Oscar - 174.35
10. Stockton - 173.19
11. Admiral - 170.16
12. Garnett - 168.03
13. Shaq - 167.89
14. Gilmore - 164.84
15. Durant - 164.17
16. Barkley - 163.89
17. Dr. J - 160.96
18. Harden - 159.77
19. Moses - 157.55
20. Kobe - 155.62
21. West - 155.35
22. Russell - 152.61
23. Magic- 151.85
24. Olajuwon - 150.08
25. Miller - 148.40
26. Bird - 145.23
27. Jokic - 143.28
28. Schayes - 139.84
29. Curry - 139.15
30. Pettit - 138.52
31. Issel - 138.40
32. Mikan - 137.19
33. Dwight Howard - 132.95
34. Paul Pierce - 132.35
35. Pau Gasol - 131.69
36. Payton - 131.13
37. Greek Freak - 130.16
38. Drexler - 129.80
39. Dantley - 129.74
40. Anthony Davis - 127.73
41. Ray Allen - 126.57
42. Parish - 126.02
43. Bellamy - 125.62
44. Wade - 124.88
45. Nash - 123.61
46. Ewing - 123.31
47. Frazier - 122.86
48. Barry - 122.25
49. Billups - 121.40
50. Pippen - 121.34
51. Havlicek - 121.02
52. Marion - 120.46
53. Jimmy Butler - 120.28
54. Kidd - 119.68
55. Gobert - 118.70
56. Arizin - 117.78
57. Lanier - 117.52
58. Lillard - 117.51
59. Gervin - 116.15
60. Vince Carter - 115.65
61. Dominique - 115.55
62. Westbrook - 115.48
63. McHale - 115.23
64. Hayes - 114.96
65. Chet Walker - 113.76
66. Bailey Howell - 113.24
67. Aldridge - 111.63
68. Kawhi Leonard - 111.45
69. Baylor - 111.36
70. Mutombo - 110.53
71. McGrady - 109.74
72. Nance - 109.67
73. Horace Grant - 109.33
74. Zelmo Beaty - 109.12
75. Ginobli - 107.63
76. Ed Macauley - 107.51
77. Brand - 107.42
78. Terry Porter - 107.15
79. Horford - 106.75
80. Hornacek - 106.01
81. Bosh - 105.77
82. Johnston - 105.65
83. Unseld - 105.60
84. Buck Williams - 105.30
85. Iverson - 104.93
86. Sikma - 104.59
87. Schrempf - 104.02
88. Stoudemire - 103.71
89. Lowry - 103.65
90. Parker - 103.05
91. Kevin Johnson - 103.02
92. Carmelo - 102.99
93. McAdoo - 102.88
94. DeMar DeRozan - 102.50
95. English - 101.81
96. DeAndre Jordan - 101.40
97. Laimbeer - 101.33
98. Jerry Lucas - 101.26
99. Cheeks - 99.50
100. Rasheed - 99.37
101. Moncrief - 99.26
102. Thorpe - 98.90
103. Shawn Kemp - 98.36
104. Mike Conley - 98.03
105. Eddie Jones - 97.99
106. Hal Greer - 97.73
107. Grant Hill - 97.47
108. Tyson Chandler - 97.40
109. Kevin Love - 97.35
110. Sam Jones - 97.00
111. Karl-Anthony Towns - 96.53
112. Cliff Hagan - 96.46
113. Jason Terry - 96.32
114. Mourning - 96.15
115. Ben Wallace - 96.10
116. Andre Miller - 96.03
117. Kyrie Irving - 95.02
118. Paul George - 94.75
119. Bobby Jones - 94.45
120. Marques Johnson - 94.44
121. Blake Griffin - 94.29
122. Mullin - 94.13
123. Cowens - 94.34
124. Hersey Hawkins - 93.90
125. Cummings - 93.38
126. AC Green - 93.38
127. Lenny Wilkins - 92.77
128. Webber - 92.52
129. Anthony Mason - 92.40
130. Mikkelsen - 92.23
131. Divac - 92.00
132. Iguodala - 91.63
133. Cassell - 91.57
134. Glen Rice - 91.11
135. Bob Cousy - 91.00
136. Rashard Lewis - 90.90
137. Worthy - 90.68
138. Tim Hardaway - 90.64
139. Bill Sharman - 90.30
140. Rodman - 89.97
141. Millsap - 89.92
142. Jonas Valančiūnas - 89.90
143. Willis Reed - 89.79
144. Marc Gasol - 89.68
145. Stojaković - 89.57
146. Isiah - 89.50
147. Steve Smith - 89.42
148. Archibald - 89.36
149. Brook Lopez - 89.05
150. Billy Cunningham - 88.98
151. Jamison - 88.68
152. Jimmy Jones - 88.51
153. Connie Hawkins - 88.46
154. Larry Foust - 88.42
155. Lou Hudson - 88.36
Next are the most valuable players at each position.
POINT GUARD
1. Chris Paul - 183.45
2. Oscar - 174.35
3. Stockton - 173.19
4. West - 155.35
5. Magic - 151.85
6. Curry - 139.15
7. Payton - 131.13
8. Nash - 123.61
9. Frazier - 122.86
10. Billups - 121.40
11. Kidd - 119.68
12. Lillard - 117.51
13. Westbrook - 115.48
14. Terry Porter - 107.15
15. Lowry - 103.65
16. Parker - 103.05
17. Kevin Johnson - 103.02
18. Cheeks - 99.50
19. Mike Conley - 98.03
20. Andre Miller - 96.03
21. Kyrie Irving - 95.02
22. Lenny Wilkins - 92.77
23. Cassell - 91.57
24. Cousy - 91.00
25. Tim Hardaway - 90.64
26. Isiah - 89.50
27. Archibald - 89.36
28. Jimmy Jones - 88.51
29. Deron Williams - 87.77
30. Mark Jackson - 87.68
31. Strickland - 87.59
32. Calvin Murphy - 87.51
33. Derek Harper - 85.75
34. Mark Price - 83.86
35. Gus Williams - 82.99
36. Luka Dončić - 82.13
37. Marbury - 82.04
38. Shai Gilgeous-Alexander - 81.21
39. Dennis Johnson - 80.81
40. Blaylock - 80.40
41. Penny Hardaway - 78.71
42. Jrue Holiday - 77.75
43. Baron Davis - 77.26
44. Mike Bibby - 75.92
45. Doc Rivers - 75.47
46. Archie Clark - 75.53
47. Louis Dampier - 75.01
SHOOTING GUARD
1. Jordan - 203.96
3. Harden - 159.77
3. Kobe - 155.62
4. Miller - 148.40
5. Drexler - 129.80
6. Ray Allen - 126.57
7. Wade - 124.88
8. Gervin - 116.15
9. Vince Carter - 115.65
10. McGrady - 109.74
11. Ginobli - 107.63
12. Hornacek - 106.01
13. Iverson - 104.93
14. DeMar DeRozan - 102.50
15. Moncrief - 99.26
16. Eddie Jones - 97.99
17. Greer - 97.73
18. Sam Jones - 97.00
19. Jason Terry - 96.32
20. Hersey Hawkins - 93.90
21. Bill Sharman - 90.30
22. Steve Smith - 89.42
23. Lou Hudson - 88.36
24. Dumars - 86.34
25..Walter Davis - 85.88
26. Earl Monroe - 83.28
27. Goodrich - 82.29
28. Mitch Richmond - 81.20
29. Dick Van Arsdale - 80.01
30. Dan Majerle - 79.96
31. Brent Barry - 79.91
32. Paul Westphal - 79.62
33. Joe Johnson - 79.48
34. Blackman - 79.17
35. Ricky Pierce - 78.10
36. Byron Scott - 76.93
37. Richie Guerin - 75.00
SMALL FORWARD
1. LeBron - 224.10
2. Durant - 164.17
3. Dr. J - 160.96
4. Bird - 145.23
5. Paul Pierce - 132.35
6. Dantley - 129.74
7. Rick Barry - 122.25
8. Pippen - 121.34
9. Havlicek - 121.02
10. Marion - 120.46
11. Jimmy Butler - 120.28
12. Arizin - 117.78
13. Dominique- 115.55
14. Chet Walker - 113.76
15. Kawhi Leonard - 111.45
16. Baylor - 111.36
17. Schrempf - 104.02
18. Carmelo - 102.99
19. English - 101.81
20. Grant Hill - 97.47
21. Cliff Hagan - 96.46
22. Paul George - 94.75
23. Marques Johnson - 94.44
24. Mullin - 94.13
25. Iguodala - 91.63
26. Glen Rice - 91.11
27. Rashard Lewis - 90.90
28. Worthy - 90.68
29. Stojaković - 89.57
30. Billy Cunningham - 88.98
31. Connie Hawkins - 88.46
32. Bob Dandridge - 87.02
33. Cornbread Maxwell - 86.60
34. Vandeweghe - 86.10
35. Richard Jefferson - 84.87
36. Dale Ellis - 84.20
37. Jayson Tatum - 82.56
38. Michael Finley - 82.21
39. Twyman - 81.11
40. Bernard King - 80.13
41. Don Nelson - 80.03
42. Kirilenko - 79.25
43. Yardley - 79.07
44. Luol Deng - 78.47
45. Wilkes - 78.22
46. Mark Aguirre - 77.90
47. Battier - 77.54
48. John Drew - 76.11
49. Jerome Kersey - 75.14
POWER FORWARD
1. Mailman - 193.64
2. Nowitzki - 180.29
3. Garnett - 168.03
4. Barkley - 163.89
5. Schayes - 139.84
6. Pettit - 138.52
7. Pau Gasol - 131.69
8. Greek Freak - 130.16
9. McHale - 115.23
10. Hayes - 114.96
11. Bailey Howell - 113.24
12. Aldridge - 111.63
13. Nance - 109.67
14. Horace Grant - 109.33
15. Brand - 107.42
16. Buck Williams - 105.30
17. Stoudemire - 103.71
18. Jerry Lucas - 101.26
19. Rasheed Wallace - 99.37
20. Thorpe - 98.90
21. Shawn Kemp - 98.36
22. Kevin Love - 97.35
23. Bobby Jones - 94.45
24. Blake Griffin - 94.29
25. Cummings - 93.38
26. AC Green - 93.38
27. Webber - 92.52
28. Anthony Mason - 92.40
29. Mikkelsen - 92.23
30. Rodman - 89.97
31. Millsap - 89.92
32. Jamison - 88.68
33. David West - 87.76
34. PJ Brown - 87.12
35. Carlos Boozer - 86.85
36. George McGinnis - 86.63
37. Cliff Robinson - 86.02
38. Spencer Haywood - 85.28
39. Oakley - 85.14
40. Harry Gallatin - 85.08
41. Zach Randolph - 84.62
42. Odom - 84.29
43. Paul Silas - 83.07
44. Dale Davis - 82.58
45. Rudy T - 80.23
46. David Lee - 80.18
47. Kevin Willis - 79.40
48. Tom Chambers - 79.29
49. Larry Johnson - 77.73
50. Shareef Abdur-Rahim - 77.30
51. Happy Hairston - 76.96
52. Tobias Harris - 76.12 (46.40)
53. Hot Rod Williams - 75.40
54. Maurice Lucas - 75.00
CENTER
1. Kareem - 228.52
2. Wilt - 222.13
3. Duncan - 177.17 (played over 60% of his career minutes at center)
4. Admiral - 170.16
5. Shaq - 167.89
6. Gilmore - 164.84
7. Moses - 157.55
8. Russell - 152.61
9. Olajuwon - 150.08
10. Jokic - 143.28
11. Issel - 138.40
12. Mikan - 137.19
13. Dwight Howard - 132.95
14. Anthony Davis - 127.73
15. Parish - 126.02
16. Bellamy - 125.62
17. Ewing - 123.31
18. Gobert - 118.70
19. Lanier - 117.52
20. Mutombo - 110.53
21. Beaty - 109.12
22. Ed Macauley - 107.51
23. Horford - 106.75
24. Bosh - 105.77
25. Johnston - 105.65
26. Unseld - 105.60
27. Sikma - 104.59
28. McAdoo - 102.88
29. DeAndre Jordan - 101.40
30. Laimbeer - 101.33
31. Tyson Chandler - 97.40
32. Karl-Anthony Towns - 96.53
33. Mourning - 96.15
34. Ben Wallace - 96.10
35. Cowens - 94.34
36. Divac - 92.00
37. Jonas Valančiūnas - 89.90
38. Willis Reed - 89.79
38. Marc Gasol - 89.68
40. Brook Lopez - 89.05
41. Larry Foust - 88.42
42. Embiid - 85.38
43. Clyde Lovellette - 84.88
44. Brad Daugherty - 82.38
45. Marcus Camby - 82.27
46. Clint Capela - 82.08 (56.90)
47. Domantas Sabonis - 81.13
48. Drummond - 80.87
49. Brad Miller - 80.86
50. Thurmond - 80.15
51. Yao Ming - 79.77
52. Nikola Vučević - 79.36
53. Bill Cartwright - 78.81
54. Jarrett Allen - 78.63
55. Nenê - 77.00
56. Valanciunas - 76.95
57. Michael Cage - 75.84
58. Alvan Adams - 75.74
59. Ilgauskas - 75.26
Nobody is saying greatest or best. The players are ranked based on the career and peak value they accumulated during their careers. Active players are still accumulating value and will likely move up the lists every season. Jokic is already top 10 all time at center and is just halfway into his career.
You can't accumulate value if you are playing baseball rather than basketball, or if you are retired or injured. Or if you miss several prime seasons because you contract what is thought of as a deadly disease and have to stop playing.
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