Zach wrote: Tue Jun 24, 2025 4:30 pm
How does Mad Max vs. Social Network break down?
Initial Acclaim: TSN
Lasting Critical Acclaim: Mad Max
Lasting Audience Acclaim: Mad Max
Initial Popularity: Mad Max
Lasting Popularity: Pretty much a tie
Influence: Close/neither really have all that much
So...
Acclaim: Mad Max close
Popularity: Mad Max close
Influence: close, leaning towards TSN maybe
102. The Imitation Game
103. Captain Phillips
104. American Hustle
105. The Florida Project
106. Pain and Glory
107. Toni Erdmann
108. Ida
109. Cold War
110. The Descendants
111. The Fighter
112. The Farewell
113. Burning
114. Hacksaw Ridge
115. Hell or High Water
116. Captain America: The Winter Soldier
117. The Big Short
118. Moneyball
119. The Intouchables
120. Nightcrawler
2019
1. Parasite - Bong Joon-Ho
2. Joker - Todd Phillips
3. Avengers: Endgame - Anthony & Joe Russo
4. The Irishman - Martin Scorsese
5. Once Upon a Time in... Hollywood - Quentin Tarantino
6. Portrait of a Lady on Fire - Céline Sciamma
7. 1917 - Sam Mendes
8. Marriage Story - Noah Baumbach
9. Little Women - Greta Gerwig
10. Knives Out - Rian Johnson
11. Uncut Gems - Benny & Josh Safdie
2018
1. Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse - Bob Persichetti, Peter Ramsey & Rodney Rothman
2. Roma - Alfonso Cuarón
3. Black Panther - Ryan Coogler
4. Shoplifters - Hirokazu Koreeda
5. The Favourite - Yorgos Lanthimos
6. A Star is Born - Bradley Cooper
7. Avengers: Infinity War - Anthony & Joe Russo
8. BlacKkKlansman - Spike Lee
9. Hereditary - Ari Aster
2017
1. Get Out - Jordan Peele
2. Call Me by Your Name - Luca Guadagnino
3. Lady Bird - Greta Gerwig
4. Dunkirk - Christopher Nolan
5. The Shape of Water - Guillermo del Toro
6. Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri - Martin McDonagh
7. Blade Runner 2049 - Denis Villeneuve
8. Coco - Lee Unkrich & Adrian Molina
9. Phantom Thread - Paul Thomas Anderson
10. Paddington 2 - Paul King
11. Logan - James Mangold
12. Wonder Woman - Patty Jenkins
13. Baby Driver - Edgar Wright
2016
1. Moonlight - Barry Jenkins
2. La La Land - Damien Chazelle
3. Arrival - Denis Villeneuve
4. Manchester by the Sea - Kenneth Lonergan
5. Your Name. - Makoto Shinkai
6. Deadpool - Tim Miller
7. The Handmaiden - Park Chan-Wook
8. Zootopia - Byron Howard & Rich Moore
9. Captain America: Civil War - Anthony & Joe Russo
2015
1. Mad Max: Fury Road - George Miller
2. Inside Out - Pete Docter & Ronnie del Carmen
3. The Revenant - Alejandro González Iñárritu
4. Spotlight - Tom McCarthy
5. Carol - Todd Haynes
6. Son of Saul - László Nemes
7. The Martian - Ridley Scott
8. Star Wars: The Force Awakens - J.J. Abrams
9. Room - Lenny Abrahamson
2014
1. Boyhood - Richard Linklater
2. Birdman or (The Unexpected Virtus of Ignorance) - Alejandro González Iñárritu
3. The Grand Budapest Hotel - Wes Anderson
4. Whiplash - Damien Chazelle
5. Interstellar - Christopher Nolan
6. Gone Girl - David Fincher
7. Guardians of the Galaxy - James Gunn
8. Leviathan - Andrey Zvyagintsev
9. Ex Machina - Alex Garland
10. The Lego Movie - Phil Lord & Christopher Miller
2013
1. Gravity - Alfonso Cuarón
2. 12 Years a Slave - Steve McQueen
3. The Wolf of Wall Street - Martin Scorsese
4. Her - Spike Jonze
5. Frozen - Chris Buck & Jennifer Lee
6. Blue Is the Warmest Colour - Abdellatif Kechiche
7. Inside Llewyn Davis - Joel & Ethan Coen
8. The Great Beauty - Paolo Sorrentino
2012
1. The Avengers - Joss Whedon
2. Amour - Michael Haneke
3. Django Unchained - Quentin Tarantino
4. Skyfall - Sam Mendes
5. Argo - Ben Affleck
6. Silver Linings Playbook - David O. Russell
7. Life of Pi - Ang Lee
8. The Act of Killing - Joshua Oppenheimer
9. Moonrise Kingdom - Wes Anderson
10. The Dark Knight Rises - Christopher Nolan
11. Zero Dark Thirty - Kathryn Bigelow
12. The Master - Paul Thomas Anderson
13. Lincoln - Steven Spielberg
14. The Hunt - Thomas Vinterberg
2011
1. A Separation - Asghar Farhadi
2. The Tree of Life - Terrence Malick
3. Drive - Nicolas Winding Refn
4. Midnight in Paris - Woody Allen
5. Hugo - Martin Scorsese
6. The Artist - Michel Hazanavicius
7. Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Part 2 - David Yates
8. Melancholia - Lars von Trier
9. Bridesmaids - Paul Feig
2010
1. Inception - Christopher Nolan
2. The Social Network - David Fincher
3. Toy Story 3 - Lee Unkrich
4. Black Swan - Darren Aronofsky
5. The King's Speech - Tom Hooper
6. Incendies - Denis Villeneuve
7. How to Train Your Dragon - Dean DeBlois & Chris Sanders
8. True Grit - Joel & Ethan Coen
9. Winter's Bone - Debra Granik
102. The Florida Project
103. Thor: Ragnarok
104. Captain America: The Winter Soldier
105. The Imitation Game
106. Nightcrawler
107. Shutter Island
108. The Intouchables
109. Holy Motors
110. Toni Erdmann
111. The Big Short
112. Moneyball
113. Burning
114. Before Midnight
115. Creed
116. Sicario
117. Mission: Impossible - Fallout
118. A Quiet Place
119. Pain and Glory
120. The Farewell
I figure The Big Short/Moneyball should be ahead of Captain Phillips/American Hustle/The Descendants, since their initial credentials are all fairly interchangeable (moderately high grossing awards favorites), while the former clearly do better in terms of lasting popularity/acclaim and influence is more or less non-existent for all 5 of these films.
I'm totally fine with moving Captain Phillips/American Hustle/The Descendants down a bit, but I don't see any reason why Ida + Cold War shouldn't be in this range. We are already moving both down as it is.
102. The Florida Project
103. Thor: Ragnarok
104. Captain America: The Winter Soldier
105. The Imitation Game
106. Nightcrawler
107. Shutter Island
108. The Intouchables
109. Holy Motors
110. Toni Erdmann
111. The Big Short
112. Moneyball
113. Burning
114. Before Midnight
115. Creed
116. Sicario
117. Mission: Impossible - Fallout
118. Ida
119. Pain and Glory
120. The Farewell
How about this?
102. The Florida Project
103. Thor: Ragnarok
104. Captain America: The Winter Soldier
105. The Imitation Game
106. Nightcrawler
107. Shutter Island
108. The Intouchables
109. Holy Motors
110. Toni Erdmann
111. The Big Short
112. Moneyball
113. Burning
114. Before Midnight
115. Creed
116. Sicario
117. Mission: Impossible - Fallout
118. Ida
119. Pain and Glory
120. The Farewell
1. Parasite - Bong Joon-Ho (2019)
2. Inception - Christopher Nolan (2010)
3. Mad Max: Fury Road - George Miller (2015)
4. The Social Network - David Fincher (2010)
5. Get Out - Jordan Peele (2017)
6. The Avengers - Joss Whedon (2012)
7. Boyhood - Richard Linklater (2014)
8. Gravity - Alfonso Cuarón (2013)
9. Moonlight - Barry Jenkins (2016)
10. A Separation - Asghar Farhadi (2011)
11. Toy Story 3 - Lee Unkrich (2010)
12. Inside Out - Pete Docter & Ronnie del Carmen (2015)
13. La La Land - Damien Chazelle (2016)
14. 12 Years a Slave - Steve McQueen (2013)
15. Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse - Bob Persichetti, Peter Ramsey & Rodney Rothman (2018)
16. The Tree of Life - Terrence Malick (2011)
17. Amour - Michael Haneke (2012)
18. Birdman or (The Unexpected Virtus of Ignorance) - Alejandro González Iñárritu (2014)
19. Roma - Alfonso Cuarón (2018)
20. The Grand Budapest Hotel - Wes Anderson (2014)
21. Django Unchained - Quentin Tarantino (2012)
22. Black Swan - Darren Aronofsky (2010)
23. The Wolf of Wall Street - Martin Scorsese (2013)
24. Her - Spike Jonze (2013)
25. Whiplash - Damien Chazelle (2014)
26. Joker - Todd Phillips (2019)
27. Avengers: Endgame - Anthony & Joe Russo (2019)
28. Black Panther - Ryan Coogler (2018)
29. Interstellar - Christopher Nolan (2014)
30. Arrival - Denis Villeneuve (2016)
31. The Irishman - Martin Scorsese (2019)
32. The King's Speech - Tom Hooper (2010)
33. The Revenant - Alejandro González Iñárritu (2015)
34. Gone Girl - David Fincher (2014)
35. Once Upon a Time in... Hollywood - Quentin Tarantino (2019)
36. Drive - Nicolas Winding Refn (2011)
37. Call Me by Your Name - Luca Guadagnino (2017)
38. Lady Bird - Greta Gerwig (2017)
39. Guardians of the Galaxy - James Gunn (2014)
40. Skyfall - Sam Mendes (2012)
41. Portrait of a Lady on Fire - Céline Sciamma (2019)
42. Frozen - Chris Buck & Jennifer Lee (2013)
43. Shoplifters - Hirokazu Koreeda (2018)
44. Dunkirk - Christopher Nolan (2017)
45. The Shape of Water - Guillermo del Toro (2017)
46. 1917 - Sam Mendes (2019)
47. The Favourite - Yorgos Lanthimos (2018)
48. Spotlight - Tom McCarthy (2015)
49. Manchester by the Sea - Kenneth Lonergan (2016)
50. Carol - Todd Haynes (2015)
51. Marriage Story - Noah Baumbach (2019)
52. Your Name. - Makoto Shinkai (2016)
53. Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri - Martin McDonagh (2017)
54. A Star is Born - Bradley Cooper (2018)
55. Blade Runner 2049 - Denis Villeneuve (2017)
56. Incendies - Denis Villeneuve (2010)
57. Blue Is the Warmest Colour - Abdellatif Kechiche (2013)
58. Avengers: Infinity War - Anthony & Joe Russo (2018)
59. Deadpool - Tim Miller (2016)
60. Coco - Lee Unkrich & Adrian Molina (2017)
61. How to Train Your Dragon - Dean DeBlois & Chris Sanders (2010)
62. Phantom Thread - Paul Thomas Anderson (2017)
63. The Handmaiden - Park Chan-Wook (2016)
64. Inside Llewyn Davis - Joel & Ethan Coen (2013)
65. BlacKkKlansman - Spike Lee (2018)
66. Argo - Ben Affleck (2012)
67. Silver Linings Playbook - David O. Russell (2012)
68. Midnight in Paris - Woody Allen (2011)
69. Life of Pi - Ang Lee (2012)
70. Hugo - Martin Scorsese (2011)
71. Paddington 2 - Paul King (2017)
72. The Artist - Michel Hazanavicius (2011)
73. The Act of Killing - Joshua Oppenheimer (2012)
74. Logan - James Mangold (2017)
75. Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Part 2 - David Yates (2011)
76. Melancholia - Lars von Trier (2011)
77. The Great Beauty - Paolo Sorrentino (2013)
78. Son of Saul - László Nemes (2015)
79. Leviathan - Andrey Zvyagintsev (2014)
80. Little Women - Greta Gerwig (2019)
81. Moonrise Kingdom (2012)
82. Bridesmaids (2011)
83. Ex Machina (2014)
84. Knives Out (2019)
85. The Martian (2015)
86. Star Wars: The Force Awakens (2015)
87. The Dark Knight Rises (2012)
88. Zootopia (2016)
89. Wonder Woman (2017)
90. Zero Dark Thirty (2012)
91. True Grit (2010)
92. The Master (2012)
93. Winter's Bone (2010)
94. The Lego Movie (2014)
95. Hereditary (2018)
96. Uncut Gems (2019)
97. Room (2015)
98. Lincoln (2012)
99. The Hunt (2012)
100. Baby Driver (2017)
101. Captain America: Civil War (2016)
102. The Florida Project
103. Thor: Ragnarok
104. Captain America: The Winter Soldier
105. The Imitation Game
106. Nightcrawler
107. Shutter Island
108. The Intouchables
109. Holy Motors
110. Toni Erdmann
111. The Big Short
112. Moneyball
113. Burning
114. Before Midnight
115. Creed
116. Sicario
117. Mission: Impossible - Fallout
118. Ida
119. Pain and Glory
120. The Farewell
2019
1. Parasite - Bong Joon-Ho
2. Joker - Todd Phillips
3. Avengers: Endgame - Anthony & Joe Russo
4. The Irishman - Martin Scorsese
5. Once Upon a Time in... Hollywood - Quentin Tarantino
6. Portrait of a Lady on Fire - Céline Sciamma
7. 1917 - Sam Mendes
8. Marriage Story - Noah Baumbach
9. Little Women - Greta Gerwig
10. Knives Out - Rian Johnson
11. Uncut Gems - Benny & Josh Safdie
12. Pain and Glory - Pedro Almodovar
13. The Farewell - Lulu Wang
2018
1. Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse - Bob Persichetti, Peter Ramsey & Rodney Rothman
2. Roma - Alfonso Cuarón
3. Black Panther - Ryan Coogler
4. Shoplifters - Hirokazu Koreeda
5. The Favourite - Yorgos Lanthimos
6. A Star is Born - Bradley Cooper
7. Avengers: Infinity War - Anthony & Joe Russo
8. BlacKkKlansman - Spike Lee
9. Hereditary - Ari Aster
10. Burning - Lee Chang Dong
11. Mission: Impossible - Fallout - Christopher McQuarrie
2017
1. Get Out - Jordan Peele
2. Call Me by Your Name - Luca Guadagnino
3. Lady Bird - Greta Gerwig
4. Dunkirk - Christopher Nolan
5. The Shape of Water - Guillermo del Toro
6. Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri - Martin McDonagh
7. Blade Runner 2049 - Denis Villeneuve
8. Coco - Lee Unkrich & Adrian Molina
9. Phantom Thread - Paul Thomas Anderson
10. Paddington 2 - Paul King
11. Logan - James Mangold
12. Wonder Woman - Patty Jenkins
13. Baby Driver - Edgar Wright
14. The Florida Project - Sean Baker
15. Thor: Ragnarok - Taika Waititi
2016
1. Moonlight - Barry Jenkins
2. La La Land - Damien Chazelle
3. Arrival - Denis Villeneuve
4. Manchester by the Sea - Kenneth Lonergan
5. Your Name. - Makoto Shinkai
6. Deadpool - Tim Miller
7. The Handmaiden - Park Chan-Wook
8. Zootopia - Byron Howard & Rich Moore
9. Captain America: Civil War - Anthony & Joe Russo
10. Toni Erdmann - Maren Ade
2015
1. Mad Max: Fury Road - George Miller
2. Inside Out - Pete Docter & Ronnie del Carmen
3. The Revenant - Alejandro González Iñárritu
4. Spotlight - Tom McCarthy
5. Carol - Todd Haynes
6. Son of Saul - László Nemes
7. The Martian - Ridley Scott
8. Star Wars: The Force Awakens - J.J. Abrams
9. Room - Lenny Abrahamson
10. The Big Short - Adam McKay
11. Creed - Ryan Coogler
12. Sicario - Denis Villeneuve
2014
1. Boyhood - Richard Linklater
2. Birdman or (The Unexpected Virtus of Ignorance) - Alejandro González Iñárritu
3. The Grand Budapest Hotel - Wes Anderson
4. Whiplash - Damien Chazelle
5. Interstellar - Christopher Nolan
6. Gone Girl - David Fincher
7. Guardians of the Galaxy - James Gunn
8. Leviathan - Andrey Zvyagintsev
9. Ex Machina - Alex Garland
10. The Lego Movie - Phil Lord & Christopher Miller
11. Captain America: The Winter Soldier - Anthony & Joe Russo
12. The Imitation Game - Morten Tyldum
13. Nightcrawler - Dan Gilroy
2013
1. Gravity - Alfonso Cuarón
2. 12 Years a Slave - Steve McQueen
3. The Wolf of Wall Street - Martin Scorsese
4. Her - Spike Jonze
5. Frozen - Chris Buck & Jennifer Lee
6. Blue Is the Warmest Colour - Abdellatif Kechiche
7. Inside Llewyn Davis - Joel & Ethan Coen
8. The Great Beauty - Paolo Sorrentino
9. Before Midnight - Richard Linklater
10. Ida - Paolo Sorrentino
2012
1. The Avengers - Joss Whedon
2. Amour - Michael Haneke
3. Django Unchained - Quentin Tarantino
4. Skyfall - Sam Mendes
5. Argo - Ben Affleck
6. Silver Linings Playbook - David O. Russell
7. Life of Pi - Ang Lee
8. The Act of Killing - Joshua Oppenheimer
9. Moonrise Kingdom - Wes Anderson
10. The Dark Knight Rises - Christopher Nolan
11. Zero Dark Thirty - Kathryn Bigelow
12. The Master - Paul Thomas Anderson
13. Lincoln - Steven Spielberg
14. The Hunt - Thomas Vinterberg
15. Holy Motors - Leos Carax
2011
1. A Separation - Asghar Farhadi
2. The Tree of Life - Terrence Malick
3. Drive - Nicolas Winding Refn
4. Midnight in Paris - Woody Allen
5. Hugo - Martin Scorsese
6. The Artist - Michel Hazanavicius
7. Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Part 2 - David Yates
8. Melancholia - Lars von Trier
9. Bridesmaids - Paul Feig
10. The Intouchables - Eric Toledano & Olivier Nakache
11. Moneyball - Bennett Miller
2010
1. Inception - Christopher Nolan
2. The Social Network - David Fincher
3. Toy Story 3 - Lee Unkrich
4. Black Swan - Darren Aronofsky
5. The King's Speech - Tom Hooper
6. Incendies - Denis Villeneuve
7. How to Train Your Dragon - Dean DeBlois & Chris Sanders
8. True Grit - Joel & Ethan Coen
9. Winter's Bone - Debra Granik
10. Shutter Island - Martin Scorsese
