Greatest Rock Artists Of All Time (Revision Version)

[pauldrach]

Also, how are you gonna deal with Jerry Butler? Should he also be included under the Impressions moniker? If not, he should definitely be considered as a standalone entry.

[pauldrach]

And another one: Why not consider Jefferson Starship and Starship together with Jefferson Airplane? Membership is similar enough.

[ManPerson]

Next:

James Blake
Blink-182
Blood, Sweat & Tears
Blur
Blue Cheer
Bon Iver
Gary "U.S." Bonds
Earl Bostic
Tiny Bradshaw
Brandy

1. Blur
2. Blink-182
3. Gary U.S. Bonds
4. Brandy
5. Bon Iver
6. Blue Cheer
7. Blood, Sweat & Tears
8. Earl Bostic
9. Tiny Bradshaw
10. James Blake

[Brian]

Also, how are you gonna deal with Jerry Butler? Should he also be included under the Impressions moniker? If not, he should definitely be considered as a standalone entry.

I would list Butler separately, because he was only with The Impressions at the very beginning.

[Brian]

One possible way

xx. Jimi Hendrix (incl. The Jimi Hendrix Experience; Band of Gypsies)

xxx. Jeff Beck (incl. The Jeff Beck Group)

If you do this, there are quite a few similar examples;

Neil Young (incl. Neil Young & Crazy Horse)

Tom Petty (incl. Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers)

Elvis Costello (incl. Elvis Costello & the Attractions)

Patti Smith (incl. Patti Smith Group)

To me, in all of these cases, the inclusion is understood.

[pauldrach]

To me, in all of these cases, the inclusion is understood.

I'd think so, too. In cases where the backing band could simply be added in brackets, e.g. Tom Petty (& the Heartbreakers), I'd list them that way. But fpr Jimi Hendrix, Jeff Beck, Patti Smith, it might not hurt to just leave the band projects off entirely. The way they are listed now does look a tad awkward. For musicians who played with multiple different projects, all of which are subsumed under their main entry (e.g. Todd Rundgren, Darlene Love), something like "Todd Rundgren (& related bands)" may be a viable option. When it's two different acts of similar importance that are lumped together, I'd separate them with a slash, e.g. Joy Division/New Order, George Michael/Wham!...

But I'm fine with whatever the editors suggest and will update the first post accordingly.

Forever your humble servant
PaulD

[Tim]

Alright, so let's put it back to just Jimi Hendrix/Jeff Beck for both.

[Tim]

Guess I don't really have a problem with Man's order for the group of 10 above, my attempt at inserting them all:

210. Sonic Youth
211. Chicago
212. Ice Cube
213. KISS
214. The Staple Singers
215. Blur
216. Usher
217. Björk
218. Arctic Monkeys
219. Chuck Willis
220. Little Willie John
221. Del Shannon
222. Nine Inch Nails
223. Rage Against the Machine
224. Motörhead
225. Def Leppard
226. Afrika Bambaataa & Soulsonic Force
227. Bon Jovi
228. The Cars
229. Bad Bunny
230. Kool & the Gang
231. Chubby Checker
232. T. Rex
233. Lionel Richie/Commodores
234. The Ventures
235. The Animals
236. Ivory Joe Hunter
237. Tom Waits
238. Pretenders
239. Leonard Cohen
240. Frank Ocean
241. Beck
242. Massive Attack
243. Lou Reed
244. MC5
245. Hüsker Dü
246. Jackson Browne
247. Pet Shop Boys
248. Captain Beefheart & His Magic Band
249. Phil Collins
250. Sade
251. Ariana Grande
252. Nicki Minaj
253. Hall & Oates
254. Boyz II Men
255. Alanis Morissette
256. Luther Vandross
257. Future
258. War
259. Chaka Khan/Rufus
260. Eurythmics
261. Salt-N-Pepa
262. Peter Gabriel
263. The Righteous Brothers
264. Jethro Tull
265. Soundgarden
266. Crystals
267. George Harrison
268. Aaliyah
269. Electric Light Orchestra
270. New York Dolls
271. Arcade Fire
272. The (Young) Rascals
273. T.I.
274. Gene Vincent & the Blue Caps
275. The Marvelettes
276. Joe Tex
277. The Prodigy
278. Johnny Ace
279. Lloyd Price
280. Cher
281. R. Kelly
282. The Lovin' Spoonful 
283. The Spinners
284. Rick James
285. Barry White
286. Weezer
287. Linda Ronstadt
288. The Shadows
289. Emerson, Lake & Palmer
290. Erykah Badu
291. Gary Numan/Tubeway Army
292. Toots & the Maytals
293. Television
294. Todd Rundgren/Utopia
295. Slayer
296. Jeff Beck
297. 50 Cent
298. Boston
299. Cheap Trick
300. Jesse Belvin
301. Buffalo Springfield
302. Justin Bieber
303. Journey
304. John Mellencamp
305. ZZ Top
306. The Moonglows
307. Duane Eddy
308. Alice in Chains
309. Backstreet Boys
310. Heart
311. Bryan Adams
312. Tina Turner
313. Patti LaBelle/Labelle
314. Christina Aguilera
315. Steve Miller Band
316. The Dells
317. Faye Adams
318. Judas Priest
319. Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds
320. PJ Harvey
321. Big Star
322. Tyler, the Creator
323. INXS
324. The Doobie Brothers
325. Moby
326. The Chemical Brothers
327. Jan & Dean
328. Boogie Down Productions
329. The B-52's
330. Randy Newman
331. Ritchie Valens
332. Dick Dale & the Del-Tones
333. No Doubt
334. Scorpions
335. The Black Eyed Peas
336. Gloria Estefan/Miami Sound Machine
337. Anita Baker
338. Mary Wells
339. Fiona Apple
340. Jeff Buckley
341. Tori Amos
342. Blue Öyster Cult
343. Wire
344. Tracy Chapman
345. Ice-T/Body Count
346. Shirley & Lee
347. The Hollies
348. The Stylistics
349. Giorgio Moroder
350. Fugazi
351. Doug E. Fresh & the Get Fresh Crew
352. Pavement
353. Queen Latifah
354. Screamin' Jay Hawkins
355. Dead Kennedys
356. Belle and Sebastian
357. Black Flag
358. Laura Nyro
359. X
360. Foreigner
361. System of a Down
362. Megadeth
363. Peter Frampton
364. Carly Simon
365. The Roots
366. Bad Brains
367. Blink-182
368. Gary U.S. Bonds
369. Brandy
370. Bon Iver
371. The Pointer Sisters
372. The Black Keys
373. Jack Scott
374. Larry Williams
375. Kurtis Blow
376. Blue Cheer
377. Blood, Sweat & Tears
378. The Fall
379. Beach House
380. Bauhaus
381. Warren Zevon
382. Kansas
383. Robbie Williams
384. UB40
385. Aphex Twin
386. 10cc
387. Air
388. Grand Funk Railroad
389. Dave Matthews Band
390. Arrested Development
391. Ohio Players
392. Huey Lewis & the News
393. Pat Benatar
394. Bachman-Turner Overdrive
395. The Chiffons
396. Earl Bostic
397. Big Mama Thornton
398. Tiny Bradshaw
399. The Bangles
400. Bad Company
401. James Blake
402. The 5th Dimension
403. A$AP Rocky
404. Jimmy Buffett
405. Bonnie Raitt
406. Arthur Alexander
407. Adam Ant/Adam & the Ants
408. Animal Collective
409. Annie Lennox
410. Sarah McLachlan
411. The Black Crowes
412. Yellow Magic Orchestra
413. 2 Live Crew
414. Air Supply
415. Melissa Etheridge
416. Rickie Lee Jones
417. Joan Armatrading
418. Archibald

[Tim]

Next:

Toni Braxton
BTS
Tim Buckley
Johnny Burnette & the Rock and Roll Trio
Burning Spear
Bush
Busta Rhymes
Jerry Butler
The Paul Butterfield Blues Band
Buzzcocks

[Tim]

And another one: Why not consider Jefferson Starship and Starship together with Jefferson Airplane? Membership is similar enough.

Then there's also Jorma Kaukonen & Jack Cassidy leaving to form Hot Tuna but I guess you could argue they were not the most important members creatively. As they did went through a rebrand, I feel you could argue them as two related but distinct artists or at least two very distinct eras for one artist ergo two separate placements for Jefferson Airplane & Jefferson Starship/Starship who I think have enough popularity to make the ranked list at some point. I guess lumping them together would be more consistent with the our list's approach even though there's something awkward about making them one entry imo.

[ManPerson]

I think Jefferson Starship is generally thought of as a rebrand of more or less the same band but others may disagree. If we consider them together, I guess Jefferson Airplane should definitely move up a bit.

[ManPerson]

I'd have Blink-182 higher, huge influence on the pop punk acts that came after and also influenced some emo rappers like Juicewrld and Lil Peep. As seemingly sacriligious as it might be to say this, I'd say their influence is fairly comparable to the group of punk bands ahead of them and their win in popularity is more significant than those bands win in acclaim. I'd say their acclaim is fairly comparable to Giorgio Moroder solo and their landslide win in popularity could arguably put them ahead. I'd have them between No Doubt and Scorpions, as I think when compared to Scorpions, Blink-182 are a bit more acclaimed, and comparable in influence and popularity.

[ManPerson]

Next:

Toni Braxton
BTS
Tim Buckley
Johnny Burnette & the Rock and Roll Trio
Burning Spear
Bush
Busta Rhymes
Jerry Butler
The Paul Butterfield Blues Band
Buzzcocks

This is what I came up with
1. BTS
2. Buzzcocks
3. Busta Rhymes
4. Jerry Butler
5. Johnny Burnette
6. Burning Spear
7. Toni Braxton
8. Tim Buckley
9. The Paul Butterfield Blues Band
10. Bush

[Tim]

Pretty different from what I got:

1. Busta Rhymes
2. Jerry Butler
3. Buzzcocks
4. Burning Spear
5. BTS
6. Toni Braxton
7. Tim Buckley
8. Johnny Burnette & the Rock and Roll Trio
9. The Paul Butterfield Blues Band
10. Bush

[ManPerson]

I feel like BTS' cultural impact and popularity are too strong for them not to be at the top of what's a fairly weak group, considering they are in big part responsible for the growing prominence of Korean popular culture as a whole. Plus, if this is correct, BTS, have probably sold more worldwide than every other artist in this group combined.

[ManPerson]

How about this?
1. BTS
2. Busta Rhymes
3. Buzzcocks
4. Jerry Butler
5. Burning Spear
6. Toni Braxton
7. Tim Buckley
8. Johnny Burnette & the Rock and Roll Trio
9. The Paul Butterfield Blues Band
10. Bush