Greatest Rock Artists Of All Time (Revision Version)

[ManPerson]

Maybe Meat Loaf could be added to the list of contenders.

[Tim]

Added. Also removed Scorpions as they were already on Brian's list of suggestions.

[ManPerson]

Next:

Ice Cube
Motörhead
Hüsker Dü
T.I.
Future
Isaac Hayes
Destiny's Child
Boston
Bryan Adams
Weezer
Alice in Chains

1. Isaac Hayes
2. Destiny's Child
3. Ice Cube
4. Husker Du
5. Future
6. Motorhead
7. T.I.
8. Weezer
9. Boston
10. Alice in Chains
11. Bryan Adams

[Tim]

I'd say Motorhead beats Husker Du in both influence and popularity.

[ManPerson]

I think the bands Husker Du influenced were more important than the bands Motorhead influenced, even if Motorhead's more important to metal than Husker Du were to alt-rock. I could see Motorhead over Future though, at least.

[ManPerson]

Here's what I'd suggest
185. A Tribe Called Quest
186. Wu-Tang Clan (incl. solo projects)
187. Pixies
188. Snoop Dogg
189. Lana Del Rey
190. Isaac Hayes
191. Alice Cooper
192. James Taylor
193. Steely Dan
194. Bob Seger (& the Silver Bullet Band)
195. The Mamas & the Papas
196. Solomon Burke
197. The Flamingos
198. The White Stripes
199. Smashing Pumpkins
200. Duran Duran
201. The Human League
202. Neil Diamond
203. The Monkees
204. Destiny's Child
205. Alicia Keys
206. Rush
207. The Moody Blues
208. Sonic Youth
209. Ice Cube
210. Chicago
211. KISS
212. The Staple Singers
213. Usher
214. Björk
215. Arctic Monkeys
216. Chuck Willis
217. Little Willie John
218. Del Shannon
219. Nine Inch Nails
220. Rage Against the Machine
221. Def Leppard
222. Afrika Bambaataa & Soulsonic Force
223. Bon Jovi
224. The Cars
225. Bad Bunny
226. Kool & the Gang
227. Lionel Richie/Commodores
228. The Ventures
229. The Animals
230. Ivory Joe Hunter
231. Pretenders
232. Leonard Cohen
233. Frank Ocean
234. Husker Du
235. Jackson Browne
236. Massive Attack
237. Motorhead
238. Phil Collins
239. Sade
240. Ariana Grande
241. Nicki Minaj
242. Future
243. Hall & Oates
244. Boyz II Men
245. T.I.
246. Pet Shop Boys
247. War
248. Salt-N-Pepa
249. Peter Gabriel
250. The Prodigy

251. Johnny Ace
252. The Righteous Brothers
253. Cher
254. R. Kelly
255. Weezer
256. The Spinners
257. Barry White
258. Jethro Tull
259. Emerson, Lake & Palmer
260. Gary Numan/Tubeway Army
261. 50 Cent
262. Justin Bieber
263. Journey
264. John Mellencamp
265. Boston
266. ZZ Top
267. Alice in Chains
268. Heart
269. Bryan Adams
270. The Dells
271. Tyler, the Creator
272. Moby
273. The Chemical Brothers
274. Jan & Dean
275. Boogie Down Productions
276. Shirley & Lee
277. Judas Priest
278. Giorgio Moroder
279. Screamin' Jay Hawkins
280. Aphex Twin
281. Bonnie Raitt
282. Yellow Magic Orchestra

[Tim]

Guess I will post what I drafted for this group:

185. A Tribe Called Quest
186. Wu-Tang Clan (incl. solo projects)
187. Pixies
188. Snoop Dogg
189. Lana Del Rey
190. Alice Cooper
191. James Taylor
192. Steely Dan
193. Bob Seger (& the Silver Bullet Band)
194. The Mamas & the Papas
195. Solomon Burke
196. The Flamingos
197. The White Stripes
198. Smashing Pumpkins
199. Duran Duran
200. The Human League
201. Isaac Hayes
202. Neil Diamond
203. The Monkees
204. Alicia Keys
205. Rush
206. The Moody Blues
207. Sonic Youth
208. Chicago
209. Destiny's Child
210. KISS
211. The Staple Singers
212. Usher
213. Björk
214. Arctic Monkeys
215. Ice Cube
216. Chuck Willis
217. Little Willie John
218. Del Shannon
219. Nine Inch Nails
220. Rage Against the Machine
221. Def Leppard
222. Afrika Bambaataa & Soulsonic Force
223. Motörhead
224. Bon Jovi
225. The Cars
226. Bad Bunny
227. Kool & the Gang
228. Lionel Richie/Commodores
229. The Ventures
230. The Animals
231. Ivory Joe Hunter
232. Pretenders
233. Leonard Cohen
234. Frank Ocean
235. Jackson Browne
236. Massive Attack
237. Phil Collins
238. Sade
239. Hüsker Dü
240. Ariana Grande
241. Nicki Minaj
242. Hall & Oates
243. Boyz II Men
244. Pet Shop Boys
245. War
246. Salt-N-Pepa
247. Peter Gabriel
248. The Prodigy
249. Johnny Ace
250. The Righteous Brothers

251. Cher
252. R. Kelly
253. The Spinners
254. Barry White
255. Jethro Tull
256. Emerson, Lake & Palmer
257. Gary Numan/Tubeway Army
258. T.I.
259. 50 Cent
260. Future
261. Boston
262. Weezer
263. Justin Bieber
264. Journey
265. John Mellencamp
266. ZZ Top
267. Heart
268. Alice in Chains
269. Bryan Adams
270. The Dells
271. Tyler, the Creator
272. Moby
273. The Chemical Brothers
274. Jan & Dean
275. Boogie Down Productions
276. Shirley & Lee
277. Judas Priest
278. Giorgio Moroder
279. Screamin' Jay Hawkins
280. Aphex Twin
281. Bonnie Raitt
282. Yellow Magic Orchestra

[pauldrach]

The following artists I saw fit to induct into my Alternative to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame are missing on page 8:

Brook Benton
Big Daddy Kane
Big Maybelle
The Cadillacs
Cameo
(Johnny Cash)
The Chi-Lites
Common
Culture Club
Cypress Hill
D'Angelo
(Miles Davis)
Desmond Dekker & the Aces
Dr. John
En Vogue
EPMD
The Five Keys
Roberta Flack
Foo Fightrers
Free
Gang Starr
The Gap Band
Geto Boys
Go-Go's
Jane's Addiction
(Louis Jordan & His Tympany Five)
Jungle Brothers
Kool G Rap & DJ Polo
Kool Moe Dee/The Treacherous Three
(Brenda Lee)
(Joe Liggins & His Honeydrippers)
Little Anthony & the Imperials
Love
Darlene Love/The Blossoms/Bob B. Soxx & the Blue Jeans
Percy Mayfield
Harold Melvin & the Blue Notes
The Meters
(Roy Milton & His Solid Senders)
New Edition
Gram Parsons/The Flying Burrito Bros
Teddy Pendergrass
Little Esther Phillips
The Replacements
Simple Minds
Slick Rick
Johnnie Taylor
Tears for Fears
Thin Lizzy
Three Dog Night
The Treniers
(Stevie Ray Vaughan & Double Trouble)
Johnny "Guitar" Watson
Bill Withers
Zapp

Artists in brackets are on the fringe of rock and arguably ineligible. Rufus & Carla Thomas should be listed separately.

[Tim]

Added to page 8 & split Carla & Rufus.

[Tim]

With this many candidates I can see us going to 300 at least, maybe even 450-500.

[Fido]

I think the bands Husker Du influenced were more important than the bands Motorhead influenced, even if Motorhead's more important to metal than Husker Du were to alt-rock. I could see Motorhead over Future though, at least.

Motorhead is one of those bands whose impact extends to every artist that followed from their style. They were precursors of the NWOBHM, of punk and metal crossovers, and essentially they made metal faster and heavier, which later led to thrash and everything else. You could make the case for them being the most influential metal band after Sabbath.

Edit: I could also see Massive Attack over Browne

[ManPerson]

Trying to find a middle ground of sorts

185. A Tribe Called Quest
186. Wu-Tang Clan (incl. solo projects)
187. Pixies
188. Snoop Dogg
189. Lana Del Rey
190. Alice Cooper
191. James Taylor
192. Steely Dan
193. Isaac Hayes
194. Bob Seger (& the Silver Bullet Band)
195. The Mamas & the Papas
196. Solomon Burke
197. The Flamingos
198. The White Stripes
199. Smashing Pumpkins
200. Duran Duran
201. The Human League
202. Neil Diamond
203. The Monkees
204. Alicia Keys
205. Rush
206. Destiny's Child
207. The Moody Blues
208. Sonic Youth
209. Ice Cube
210. Chicago
211. KISS
212. The Staple Singers
213. Usher
214. Björk
215. Arctic Monkeys
216. Chuck Willis
217. Little Willie John
218. Del Shannon
219. Nine Inch Nails
220. Rage Against the Machine
221. Def Leppard
222. Afrika Bambaataa & Soulsonic Force
223. Motörhead
224. Bon Jovi
225. The Cars
226. Bad Bunny
227. Kool & the Gang
228. Lionel Richie/Commodores
229. The Ventures
230. The Animals
231. Ivory Joe Hunter
232. Pretenders
233. Leonard Cohen
234. Frank Ocean
235. Massive Attack
236. Hüsker Dü
237. Jackson Browne
238. Phil Collins
239. Sade
240. Ariana Grande
241. Nicki Minaj
242. Hall & Oates
243. Boyz II Men
244. Pet Shop Boys
245. Future
246. War
247. Salt-N-Pepa
248. Peter Gabriel
249. The Prodigy
250. Johnny Ace

251. The Righteous Brothers
252. T.I.
253. Cher
254. R. Kelly
255. The Spinners
256. Barry White
257. Weezer
258. Jethro Tull
259. Emerson, Lake & Palmer
260. Gary Numan/Tubeway Army
261. 50 Cent
262. Boston
263. Justin Bieber
264. Journey
265. John Mellencamp
266. ZZ Top
267. Heart
268. Alice in Chains
269. Bryan Adams
270. The Dells
271. Tyler, the Creator
272. Moby
273. The Chemical Brothers
274. Jan & Dean
275. Boogie Down Productions
276. Shirley & Lee
277. Judas Priest
278. Giorgio Moroder
279. Screamin' Jay Hawkins
280. Aphex Twin
281. Bonnie Raitt
282. Yellow Magic Orchestra

[Tim]

I like it.

[Tim]

Next group:

The (Young) Rascals
MC5
The Shadows
The Marvelettes
Joe Tex
Tina Turner
Beck
Tom Waits
Gloria Estefan & Miami Sound Machine
Robbie Williams

[Fido]

I think Taylor and Steely Dan only have popularity over Hayes. Ice Cube above Chicago is underrating them too much, they destroy him in popularity and beat him in musical impact. Motörhead are more popular and acclaimed than Bambaataa and more influential and acclaimed than Def Leppard. It's also wrong to have RATM over them but I guess critical acclaim would put them ahead. I don't really mind how the 250+ part of the list is ordered.

And how are we getting to the Marvelettes before the Ronettes?

[Tim]

I am going with Chris F.'s order from highest to lowest, in groups of 10, of course that does not mean we have to follow it as well when it comes to our list. For what it's worth, Samp's 1960s list also has Marvelettes ahead but neither of these lists factor in critical acclaim.